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Post by cornvan309(knicks) on Sept 6, 2015 3:43:19 GMT
My argument for Portland? We know Lillard is a fantasy stud. If Antetokounmpo makes the leap, that's two. He has almost $60 mil to spend on free agents, so he's going to get 6 players that are better than Vonleh, Johnson, Gordon and McCollum. If he locks all those guys up through next year, and one or two of those other four get significantly better? He's going to be scary. BUT HE WILL HAVE NO RE-SIGN he already gots to use one next year. so thats 9 players even if he does get a good Fa its only a 3 year deal the same time Brook Lopez is off the books. I am saying i dont see it im sorry. Next year he gets lillard for a long time after that is a mystery. What about this what about that. Trying to win not think about some made up self
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Post by Miege22 (SONICS) on Sept 6, 2015 3:54:20 GMT
My argument for Portland? We know Lillard is a fantasy stud. If Antetokounmpo makes the leap, that's two. He has almost $60 mil to spend on free agents, so he's going to get 6 players that are better than Vonleh, Johnson, Gordon and McCollum. If he locks all those guys up through next year, and one or two of those other four get significantly better? He's going to be scary. BUT HE WILL HAVE NO RE-SIGN he already gots to use one next year. so thats 9 players even if he does get a good Fa its only a 3 year deal the same time Brook Lopez is off the books. I am saying i dont see it im sorry. Next year he gets lillard for a long time after that is a mystery. What about this what about that. Trying to win not think about some made up self He re-signs Lillard next year. He re-signs Giannis the year after. Vonleh and Gordon are locked up through 2018. Johnson through 2019. So what if he uses his re-signs in the first two years? He has $60 mil to spend and the rest of his team, sans McCollum, is locked up through 2018. Why are you so hung up on re-signs?
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Post by studiscus (CAVS) on Sept 6, 2015 3:56:52 GMT
Cv has too much time on his hands..
Or as we say in my native language...
Fuck off.
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Post by Benedict (Rockets) on Sept 6, 2015 4:31:28 GMT
I had some thoughts on how to get rid of him, but looking back I took that pick expecting a steal, a 3, low TOs per game and I was too focused on filling up my starting 5. 6M is too much and probably a wasted pick, but he doesn't give much damage to me other than that. I had to pick my stats to keep up with the top teams in this league. Why not Mcw?? And no way will Portland be in a spot to to win. Every player has a battle at his position in the NbA, and by the time he sees them through they will have to be resign I wanted 3s, steals and low TO for my PG. MCW really hurts on FG% and TO's. I regret passing up on Cauley-Stein more.
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Post by Miege22 (SONICS) on Sept 6, 2015 5:42:27 GMT
But again, as much as I may disagree with these grades, CV, you're bringing debate and discussion to these boards. Kudos.
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Post by Kots (Hawks) on Sept 6, 2015 7:21:16 GMT
My argument for Portland? We know Lillard is a fantasy stud. If Antetokounmpo makes the leap, that's two. He has almost $60 mil to spend on free agents, so he's going to get 6 players that are better than Vonleh, Johnson, Gordon and McCollum. If he locks all those guys up through next year, and one or two of those other four get significantly better? He's going to be scary. BUT HE WILL HAVE NO RE-SIGN he already gots to use one next year. so thats 9 players even if he does get a good Fa its only a 3 year deal the same time Brook Lopez is off the books. I am saying i dont see it im sorry. Next year he gets lillard for a long time after that is a mystery. What about this what about that. Trying to win not think about some made up self Have thought about this some more and CV does make some sense here. As long as Portland is able to recruit some top FA's that are left, in 2-4 years all these top rooks will be up for resign (unless he trades of course) and brings in players on deals that are into the next period. May not be in a win now position until then or risk losing all or some of these players at this time. There are not too many rookies that are Davis, Rose, Lillard esq who perform right off the bat and put up huge numbers. Dunno both sides of the argument are making sense right now. I guess we will have to wait and see and what happens after FA and into the season.
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Post by Kots (Hawks) on Sept 6, 2015 7:22:39 GMT
BUT HE WILL HAVE NO RE-SIGN he already gots to use one next year. so thats 9 players even if he does get a good Fa its only a 3 year deal the same time Brook Lopez is off the books. I am saying i dont see it im sorry. Next year he gets lillard for a long time after that is a mystery. What about this what about that. Trying to win not think about some made up self Have thought about this some more and CV does make some sense here. As long as Portland is able to recruit some top FA's that are left, in 2-4 years all these top rooks will be up for resign (unless he trades of course) and brings in players on deals that are into the next period. May not be in a win now position until then or risk losing all or some of these players at this time. There are not too many rookies that are Davis, Rose, Lillard esq who perform right off the bat and put up huge numbers. Dunno both sides of the argument are making sense right now. I guess we will have to wait and see and what happens after FA and into the season. Maybe it was premature to rank/predict prior to the completion of FA??
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Post by Miege22 (SONICS) on Sept 6, 2015 7:26:02 GMT
BUT HE WILL HAVE NO RE-SIGN he already gots to use one next year. so thats 9 players even if he does get a good Fa its only a 3 year deal the same time Brook Lopez is off the books. I am saying i dont see it im sorry. Next year he gets lillard for a long time after that is a mystery. What about this what about that. Trying to win not think about some made up self Have thought about this some more and CV does make some sense here. As long as Portland is able to recruit some top FA's that are left, in 2-4 years all these top rooks will be up for resign (unless he trades of course) and brings in players on deals that are into the next period. May not be in a win now position until then or risk losing all or some of these players at this time. There are not too many rookies that are Davis, Rose, Lillard esq who perform right off the bat and put up huge numbers. Dunno both sides of the argument are making sense right now. I guess we will have to wait and see and what happens after FA and into the season. I totally get that side of the argument. My response: No one is going to get to re-sign their rookies. If one or two of those rookies blossoms on their rookie deal, Portland is the only one that will see the most value. Those rookies will hit the market after their deals are up and their contracts will skyrocket. It's a lot like baseball, actually. They go from dramatically underpaid to dramatically overpaid in the blink of an eye because of the way the system is set up.
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Post by Kots (Hawks) on Sept 6, 2015 7:30:58 GMT
Have thought about this some more and CV does make some sense here. As long as Portland is able to recruit some top FA's that are left, in 2-4 years all these top rooks will be up for resign (unless he trades of course) and brings in players on deals that are into the next period. May not be in a win now position until then or risk losing all or some of these players at this time. There are not too many rookies that are Davis, Rose, Lillard esq who perform right off the bat and put up huge numbers. Dunno both sides of the argument are making sense right now. I guess we will have to wait and see and what happens after FA and into the season. I totally get that side of the argument. My response: No one is going to get to re-sign their rookies. If one or two of those rookies blossoms on their rookie deal, Portland is the only one that will see the most value. Those rookies will hit the market after their deals are up and their contracts will skyrocket. It's a lot like baseball, actually. They go from dramatically underpaid to dramatically overpaid in the blink of an eye because of the way the system is set up. So is it the case that those owners that franchised/drafted proven players on longer contracts are in the box seat right now? That is in 3-4 years when those said rookies/expiring contracts are up will be in the best position to be champions?
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Post by Kots (Hawks) on Sept 6, 2015 7:35:48 GMT
I totally get that side of the argument. My response: No one is going to get to re-sign their rookies. If one or two of those rookies blossoms on their rookie deal, Portland is the only one that will see the most value. Those rookies will hit the market after their deals are up and their contracts will skyrocket. It's a lot like baseball, actually. They go from dramatically underpaid to dramatically overpaid in the blink of an eye because of the way the system is set up. So is it the case that those owners that franchised/drafted proven players on longer contracts are in the box seat right now? That is in 3-4 years when those said rookies/expiring contracts are up will be in the best position to be champions? I think this is the argument CV is trying to make - not sure as he does not always make sense when posting
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 13:29:28 GMT
NO i am not look at the Beverly grade. Horrible pick. What i am saying is i thought he really need Noel at all He's my blocks and steals thay K Love won't get me. Then K love is the points and 3's Noel won't touch. Their rebounds together will total close to 20 total per game. I liked what I did with the limited options at big by the time I went. One expensive middle aged one on long term, one young cheap short term stud who I plan to resign as if you check most fantasy projections (which in reality we may all hate but is what CV just did here, which we enjoyed), and a lot of these outlets have Noel as a top 40 overall player. I can buy his argument in regards to not knowing whether I was competing now or in the future, he makes that out to be a bad thing when in reality, my plan was to be good in both instances, now and later. A few proven Top 50 players, one potential Top 10 guy if Love gets back to his stuff, and some young top prospects to watch. I don't know if I'll win as of now but after free agency I think the team could be pretty good. Good write up again CV! Sent from The Office of the Phoenix Suns General Manager
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Post by GREATEST OWNER IN NBA HISTORY on Sept 6, 2015 16:01:36 GMT
But again, as much as I may disagree with these grades, CV, you're bringing debate and discussion to these boards. Kudos. CORNBALLS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!
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Post by pcopps(Pacers) on Sept 7, 2015 23:50:12 GMT
I hope you haven't given up on these Cornvan. I want to see your reviews for the rest of the league.
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Post by cornvan309(knicks) on Sept 8, 2015 0:00:46 GMT
Coming tommorow on my off day lol
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Post by pcopps(Pacers) on Sept 8, 2015 0:05:54 GMT
Coming tommorow on my off day lol F*ck Yes
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